Jayne Groll is the CEO and co-founder of DevOps Institute and an expert in IT training. She joins DevOps host, Andre Pino, to discuss how people can get training and certification in DevOps to bring value back to the organization and DevOps Institute’s role in the DevOps Express consortium.

Wen Gu is a product development leader, engineering manager for continuous integration and CTO for engineering effectiveness at Twitter. He was also a speaker at Jenkins World 2016. In this episode, special host and CEO of CloudBees, Sacha Labourey, chats with Wen about his moves from DevTools to DevOps, Intuit to Twitter and Hudson to Jenkins, covering the evolution of CI/CD and the tricky definition of DevOps.